Autism, Telepathy, and the Fourth Wave: A Quantum Healing Conversation

Catching up with Mary Truitt on many topics. Have YOU seen the Telepathy Tapes? That is only one thing we touch on, but it is significant and appearing in lots of conversations between healers.

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Transcript

Mary Truitt
The second thing I was going to say about Dolores was that she would talk a lot, you know, if you know the Three Waves of volunteers, not you, but anybody watching, you know the third wave are the children and the indigo children, the Crystal Children, whatever. And I think that the fourth wave are now the non speaking autistic kids that were interviewed in the telepathy tapes. And I’m really working on this theory that I think autism is an evolutionary leap. And you know, she would always say these autistic kids are very special, but I don’t remember her ever saying, why. But now we’re beginning to discover Candace. You’ve listened to the telepathy tapes, right?

Candace Craw-Goldman
I’m on Episode Two. I keep trying.

Mary Truitt
Just keep going. I mean

Candace Craw-Goldman
I mean, I keep trying to plug it into my life again, telling you

Mary Truitt
By the time you get to the end, you know, I made a, I’m on Tik Tok a lot, which is kind of my thing is tick tock, not YouTube, not Instagram, or whatever. I found my audience at tick tock and I did a, I did a tick tock on this because these kids, these non verbal, autistic kids, are connected, not only to each other in a worldwide web, but to all the realms on the hill.

Mary Truitt
On the hill.

Candace Craw-Goldman
Hi everyone. It’s Candace Craw-Goldman, again from QuantumHealers.com it’s kind of casual day at the farm. I’m doing a little bit of work, little bit of farm, little bit interviews, back and forth all day long. So this is what you this is what you get today. You get casual me today. Usually I like, should I put on another shirt? Not today? And part of that is because we were just talking about how comfortable we are together, right? Mary Truitt

Mary Truitt
Absolutely, completely comfortable.

Candace Craw-Goldman
Mary Truitt and I have known each other for a long time, but I’m not going to ask her what date and what year we’ve known each other, because she gets those really wrong.

Mary Truitt
100% get them all wrong. I was thinking before we even started this interview, I was like, She better not ask me any dates. She knows me well enough not to ask me. The only thing I remember is the year that I became a recommended practitioner. And that was 2014 and I remember that because that’s the year dear Dolores died. So Right?

Candace Craw-Goldman
Well that was a big year. That was a huge year. Yeah, right, yeah. So we, yeah, we were talking about that quite a bit, and I then I would like released a video of it. So those of you about that recommended practitioner used to be what we called the level three people. And then for a little time we called them ambassadors. That didn’t last very long, and then we finally settled on just the number and and that was that, yeah. So we’ve kind of, you know, good for you for sticking with quantum healing for this long, because that’s rare, really, really rare. So yeah, oh gosh, for to do this for 11 years. Yeah, so, you know, it wasn’t too far into me assisting Dolores when we started asking, and when I say we it was, it was me for a while. And then Tom came because, you know, he’d been involved in in a number of businesses and startups and stuff before and and, and he would ask some basic business questions. And he ended up helping Dolores too, on the back end, very, you know, no face, and very quietly, but on those, you know, the nuts and bolts stuff of the business.

Candace Craw-Goldman
And, you know, at the time, oh gosh, you know, at the time, early days, all they did was put people’s names and phone numbers on a website for the longest time, and it was like, We gotta clean this up, because people are calling not and then even the people who had answers say, Well, I’m not doing that anymore. And we’re like, we need to clean this up, and we need to find out who’s actually still practicing. And we learned something the first couple years of doing that that remains true to today, which is this, there’s all kinds of reasons people take QHHT the class, or BQH or other programs like this, and not everybody who takes the class needs to open up a practice and needs to hang a shingle that doesn’t invalidate the value of the class or the skill that you have in any sort of way, but to actually accept clients. Here are the statistics after one year of let’s say 100 people take a class after one year. Exactly how many people you think are still accepting clients or accepting clients? Maybe some never did, but after a year of 100 people, because it’s easy to do math, yeah, yeah, okay, here, yeah, here’s numbers. Get 10. Only 10, one out of only one out of 10 is accepting clients. Now take those 10 and then ask them the next year, how many of those are still practicing?

Mary Truitt
Yeah, probably, very few. Yeah, one, one. Why do you think that is Candace? I mean, I totally understand why people take the class and and then don’t practice. That I understand, but of the people who choose to practice, why do you think they stop?

Candace Craw-Goldman
Boy, I have a lot of thoughts about that. In general, the people thought the sort of the idea of just human beings starting something and not following up. That’s so common, right? Oh yeah, I’m going to start this exercise program. I’m going to start this I’m going to, I’m making that New Year’s resolution, and then no. So there’s a lot of that, and that’s just human in any endeavor, any endeavor, sports, you know, diets, just anything, it’s so that’s a huge part of it. Number two, I think this is a big one. They’re just not cut out for the work. The work is and a couple things. One is, there’s a lot of surprises in this work.

Mary Truitt
No kidding, I was gonna say it takes real guts to do it

Mary Truitt
It does. It takes guts. Yeah, think on your feet.

Mary Truitt
Not be afraid when weird voices come out or dicey situations happen, you know. It does, it takes guts.

Candace Craw-Goldman
It takes a lot of guts. And human beings as you know, one of the ways they, you know, and the the powers that that want to be take advantage of this part of humanity, I believe, too, which is human beings in general, don’t like change. They don’t like change. They want I want to know what’s going to happen. I know, you know this happened. I want to know it’s going to happen. I want the same thing to happen tomorrow. They don’t like things being mixed up. I’ve never been that kind of person. I like things to, you know, have a variety of of things going on in my life. So I think people don’t, don’t like change, there’s that too. And, yeah, I mean, those are some of the those are some of the main reasons that I think, and then I think this too, and this one is completely valid, and this is, if you think about it, one of the reasons I created BQ, h as I did, which is, I know a number of people who they just wanted to sit in in in Dolores energy, they wanted to meet her in real life when they were taking her class, or they just wanted to learn some approaches in that work that they could apply in something completely different. So they thought of it as a, you know, I’ll take this, this and this. What was so, what was that energy class you and I took? What was that I’m not remembering you? Bio, yeah, that. So, you know, do you list that anywhere? I don’t,

Mary Truitt
I don’t, and also, I don’t use it. I did, but I’m glad I went

Candace Craw-Goldman
I’m glad I saw the operation. I learned different approaches. I met people. I it got me thinking on other levels. You and I spent wonderful time together. That’s mostly what I remember about it. Me too, and and we asked, remember we got in trouble? We got in trouble more than once because we’re in the back of the class. We’re talking about it, all that’s going on, and what about this? And what about that?

Mary Truitt
I know so there was a

Candace Craw-Goldman
I am not sorry I spent the money and went there. I’m not sorry about that at all. I don’t use that. I don’t even talk about it. I don’t remember what it was called, obviously.

Mary Truitt
No, I want to, I want to add something to what you’re saying, because I think there are so many modalities available now than there were before, for people who are seeking some kind of spiritual expansion. And I I’m very interested in the fact that going to a QHHT or BQH session means that the person the client has to participate. There’s nothing passive about it. And I was discussing this with someone yesterday, which is, you know, there’s all this controversy about the synaptistic level versus the conscious level. Who remembers who doesn’t? Am I making it up? Is it a daydream, you know? And one of the things I. Say to that is, when you wake up in the morning, do you say, Why did I make up that stupid dream? Like it never occurs to us that we’ve made up our dream.

Mary Truitt
You know, we know that we created our dream out of some kind of very brilliant part of our mind. But anyway, the thing I wanted to say is that QHHT and BQH is participatory. So when you come out of that session, first of all, when you go in, you have to trust your the images that you’re seeing in the information that you’re getting. And the reward of that is that organic beauty of you know, for example, if you were a dolphin and you were jumping through the water and see the rainbow of the water and whatever, no one can ever take that away from you. You’re like, I own that. That is mine. And so that’s one of the good parts about it. But the hard part about it is so many people can walk away from a session and say, I made up all this crap during my hypnotherapy session. And I think for practitioners who don’t have a strong ego, this can be very difficult, and so they kind of give up, like, you know, oh well, everybody thinks I’m a fraud. So if you don’t grow with the work and expand my own and strengthen your own ego and your your own ability to hold the space no matter what happens, then I think I see why people would quit,

Candace Craw-Goldman
Sure, and you know that goes back to so much of what is been so impactful in the Whole World The last just several of years, which is sort of holding the party line, right? So the party line is one thing, and to do this work, you’ve got to go against the party line. And, you know, they do a lot of experiments. You know, it’s the Milgram experiment. You know, the Milgram experiment is the one with the they put a scientist in a room with or even a pretend scientist wearing a doctor wearing a white coat, and then a volunteer, and then people in the other room, and the whole experiment is that the volunteer thinks the experiment is about like these People or whatever, but it’s all about the volunteer, and the scientist says, Okay, you need to push this button and that will give them a mild electric shock. Remember that one? Yeah. And then it just keeps going until the people in the other room are screaming, absolutely screaming in pain, and the guy in the white coat with the Clipboard is saying, Okay, now we need to dial it up a little bit more. And because of that authority, you know, and and so I think it’s 15% there’s 15% of people in that situation who’s going, Well, hell no, I’m not doing that anymore. I’m not I’m out of here. Yeah, 85% of people will do what the guy in the white coat says, even if it’s hurting other people.

Mary Truitt
I mean, even, you know, I had this such sad thing that happened to me. You know, I live on in New York City, and my street is sometimes has some homeless people or drug addicts or whatever. And last summer, I was walking down the street and there was a young man, probably in his early 20s, lying like just splayed out on the sidewalk, and he had some food that was kind of knocked over next to him, and his eyes were sort of half, you know, gone, whatever. And I looked around and like everybody was just walking by him. And, you know, we see a lot of homeless people. They’re usually sitting in a doorway or they have a little bag, but they’re not lying on the ground with their eyes at half mast, you know, whatever. And I turned there was a young man standing kind of near me, you know, looking bored out of his mind. And I looked at him, and I looked at the man on the ground, and the guy just went, like this, like, what are you going to do?

Mary Truitt
It’s like, really. And then all these able bodied people were walking by, and I thought, like, the old lady is the one that’s going to help him. Okay? So I tapped him on the shoulder, and I woke him up, and I said, Have you taken something we need to know about? I mean, you can imagine what I said to him. Do I need to call 911 Finally, he sat up, he opened his eyes, and he literally had the most beautiful eyes I have ever seen in my life. They were this deep forest green, and they were so full of, I mean, I would just have to say Christ consciousness, or Christ energy. I felt as if Jesus was looking back at me, and I said, Sit here for a minute. I’m going to get you a bottle of water. It was about 110 degrees. 10 degrees outside. Got him water, helped him, and he went on his way. But it was like everybody just walks by. People just want to go with the crowd. You know, they don’t. They don’t want to stand out in any way. And just to change the subject to.

Candace Craw-Goldman
Tiny bit couple of hours later. Well, that was pretty deep. It’s okay to change it.

Mary Truitt
Well, no, what happened was, and this is what makes our work so fascinating, Candace, and what keeps me coming back to the table always is, couple of hours later, I had a session, and the first lifetime that the woman went to she was a little girl who’d been abandoned on the street and everybody’s walking by her.

Candace Craw-Goldman
This is how the energy works. This is how the energy works in quantum healing, which is why, like, the more miracles you witness, the more you get to see later and have happen in your own life. All of this is the way energy works. I have found that you cannot, you know, you can’t compartmentalize. You can’t even try.

Mary Truitt
No yeah, because the sessions, I mean, I began to realize so many years ago, at the very beginning, I’d have a session and I’d say, Wait, was that for me, or was that for the client? Like so many clients would come who were having the exact same problem I was having in my life, or whatever, and like, Oh, wow. The you know, the subconscious really nailed that one, and that helped me.

Candace Craw-Goldman
Yeah, energy matches, too. Energy matches, yeah, absolutely perfect. Well, that’s, that’s astonishing. That’s amazing. Well, hey, listen, I don’t know when this is going to go out. We are recording this on the 28th of of March. I might, I may get it out really quickly. So just in case, it is going to be almost exactly a month from today, we are going to have the b q h immersion class. So for those of you, even if you’re in the middle of taking BQ, H class, you you might want to think about joining us here in Kansas. There’s only 10 seats. I’m texting all kinds of texts and messages coming in today. We still have two or three depending. You know, people are juggling schedules, etc. But I do want to mention that, and I want to mention it primarily because of this. It’s going to be the only BQ, H immersion class in 2025 and I’ve gone ahead and made the decision to not offer anymore until I’m no longer caring for my father. It’s thinking it’s just too much, just too much for me and and there you have it. And that doesn’t mean they’re going to go away forever and but I don’t know how long that’s going to be, and I might change my mind, but I rather doubt it. I have caregivers, but not overnight. So they show up, but every single night, I’m taking care of my dad and I’m tired.

Mary Truitt
What an honor and a privilege, and there’ll be plenty of time for you to have immersion.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I hope so. If he lives as long as my grandma, he’s going to be here for 11 more years.

Mary Truitt
Okay, I don’t know what to say to that.

Candace Craw-Goldman
How do you even think about that? The man’s going to be 95 in September, and my you know that they’re just very long lived on that side of the family, and I hope I benefit from that. Yeah, but yeah. So, so thanks for letting letting me tell you that I’ve got some other news too. But go ahead.

Mary Truitt
Say something about the immersion class, because I remember, don’t ask me how many years ago you put out that you were doing the first BQH immersion class, and I remember I was the first one to sign up. Yes, I do remember that. And something happened, and I don’t remember, we don’t remember what happened, but I couldn’t go. And the reason I wanted to go so much was not just because I wanted to see the the sort of new BQ, H work, expand into the future, but also because I had such incredible memories of the very last reunion that we did with Dolores. And it was in the fall of 2014 I think. And you and I

Candace Craw-Goldman
Summer 2015 was the last reunion of all. But the last one with, I didn’t do last one with Dolores. So just a clarification point, right?

Mary Truitt
So, yeah, I didn’t go after she died. But that one, I guess she had a couple of months left to live, and the ideas were pouring out of us. I remember meeting with you and talking, and I had this vision in my head of a Dolores Cannon Center in Arkansas, where all her books would be the archival material you could watch videos of her, I had this whole idea, and I remember saying to you and to one of her other assistants at the time, you guys have to start thinking about this. We need a Dolores Cannon Center. It has to happen. And then not just that idea, but so many other ones. And so during these sessions. You know, these immersion, you know, classes, or the reunions, when people get together, the synergistic effect is just like watching popcorn pop. You know, I think people grow exponentially. They learn exponentially. And I am not going to be able to go to the immersion class, but I recommend it so much. Thank you so much.

Candace Craw-Goldman
You know the conversation you’re talking about, just the conversation is so personally important to me for a variety of reasons, and it brings me to the next news voice. So talk about energy. But do you know that? I can even tell you, if you gave me like a layout of the auditorium where we had that conversation, I could tell you where we were standing. I can too.

Mary Truitt
We were right in front of the stage, standing right there a little bit to the left, maybe Exactly,

Candace Craw-Goldman
yeah, I remember it just so vividly and in so many ways and and at the same time, you know, I my my mother, my mother was not well, and there was these weird, swirling energetics and emotions around me, because I had some guilt about leaving mom in Kansas, and she was not well, Dolores had recovered, but would end up dying. Yeah. And a couple months after that, and I had this swirling, I still have it a little bit Dolores, Mother energy for Me, Mother, Mother energy for me, it all of that was sort of swirling, and I felt death coming. But see, I left my mother, who was older and who was ill. So it was all very weird. In my field, it was very weird. Death was all around me. But I kind of thought it was my mom going out, and she didn’t die for three, three more years. But yeah, yeah, you’re right. And getting together in real life is is just so amazing. And you know, we only have room for 10 people. And do you know, in this last class, I’m just flipping through some some video. I have a lot of video content that I could make some stuff with to share. It’s simply time. Time is my, my biggest challenge.

Candace Craw-Goldman
But I am looking at this woman. Her name was Annie, and she she was talking about how, you know, with all the sessions she had, personally she went, knowing and believing her skill level would improved in that did she goes. But I can’t believe how much it has impacted me. And of like, you know, out of just that small group of people, there was two who had instantaneous healings, two of the practitioners, and one of them was glasses. Yeah, it was, it was the best, because I, it was the day, I was like, I had a screen out, and I was showing some stuff, and there was some stuff written on there. And I kept seeing the she just kept doing this and rubbing her glasses and putting her glasses on and looking and doing all of this. And we finally went, you know, hey, why don’t you tell us what’s going on here? And yeah, she couldn’t wear glasses anymore because her eyes were healed from a session. And then it was confusing to her.

Candace Craw-Goldman
She’d been, she’d been wearing glasses for so long, and she’d had extra problems with her eyes for for a couple of years, and, yeah, all that just, and I don’t even think it was like an intentional thing, right? It wasn’t, it wasn’t please, I need this session, this practice session, to focus on healing my eyes. It wasn’t that at all, but it just happened. So here’s some exciting news. Um, there is, and I’m not going to steal her thunder, and I’m not going to get I’m going to make it a tease, because it I’m just damn but we have a a colleague who’s been doing QHHT, BQH. She took Dolores QHHT class initially, believe it or not, um, a few months before I did. So she’s been at this for a really long time. What was that? Did you see that? Yeah, it was a flash. It was amazing. That’s amazing. Anyway, I’ve never seen that, not even on Zoom. That was crazy. It was like a camera flash right in the middle of the screen. I hope it got right.

Mary Truitt
Something flew across the screen. Almost

Candace Craw-Goldman
amazing. Yeah. Anyway, so this gal, well, she lives in Europe. She just had a session. She had a session. She took the class. She set QHHT aside. Didn’t come back to it for years. So, so much, so, so many years that Dolores had already passed. I had already gone off on my own. I already had released the QH so that’s when she came back to it. So she took it. Didn’t do. Anything for the longest time came back. So that’s who this person is. And just a session like any other session booked, it happened to be of a documentary filmmaker, and he is finishing up a documentary, an hour long, documentary about quantum healing, focusing around this practitioner’s work. But also I got to be a part of it, and I also submitted, and he uses portions of my session with Dolores, and he remastered her voice, and I I collected a bunch of photographs. They’re crummy photographs. They are terrible. They could have been okay photographs, but they are some of the blurriest cell phone photos that other people took, that I’ve all but he was able to take footage, voice photographs, and a little bit of interview of me and sprinkle it through this documentary. And one of Dolores daughters is in it. It’s amazing. I don’t think she knows I’m in it, though we’ll see how that play plays out. It’s not my documentary anyway it I’m hoping. I’m really hoping, not for myself, but or let’s go all the way back to the beginning of this quantum healing and Dolores and the things that she started, and the dissemination of the excitement of that idea. I think because people, you know, I was afraid that, after her death, as you were, that so much of that, I mean, I would have gone, if it were me, I would have gone straight to her desk and taken photos like you see, of Einstein’s desk. Yeah, I can’t.

Mary Truitt
I was trying to warn everybody about, of course

Candace Craw-Goldman
and I was and I I attempted that conversation, and was shut down faster than you can imagine. And I mean, none of that ever happened. And I thought Dolores, entire legacy was like this, and headed out screen, you know, exit left and but YouTube and YouTube shorts kept her alive, so there are more people interested in her than ever. So for that idea, and that reason, I think this documentary could take off, and I actually really hope it even goes to like a film festival kind of thing. But it might not. It might just be a YouTube thing. But hey

Mary Truitt
nothing wrong with YouTube. I want to say one thing about Dolores, two things right now, which is, I cannot believe how smart she was about allowing herself to be videotaped. Because if you go back in time to that era, there are not that many good videotapes of anybody talking about anything. And, you know, there was a period, I think, for the last two or three years of her life, where every time she opened her mouth, every time she went up on stage, she was videotaped. And she’s left us this incredible legacy of her confidence and her, you know, her in the information she got, and it’s just a miracle that that people are able to experience her in such a way, because not everybody did video, and she did so much of it. And I’ve said to people in the past, you know, if you have watched a video of Dolores, you’ve met her to get and she adored the camera. I think he adored the video camera.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I have to, I have to absolutely tell you that, because there’s a reason for still photographs you only see, like two of them, and that is because she hated still cameras. She absolutely hated them. And most people know I was doing professional photography, and they’re towards the end, about 20. And I finally got my courage up enough. It was the same year I got it was the same year I got my beautiful glass award that that she gave me that’s also in that documentary.

Mary Truitt
It’s exciting.

Candace Craw-Goldman
It’s so exciting, I can’t believe it. I I’m like, when I talk to the filmmaker, I’m like, Are you putting all because he sent me the clips. When we get off air, I can show you some. We’ll share screen. I’m not, I’m not going to be doing any of that in public, but I’ll show you some of them when we’re off screen. It was 2012 and I finally got my courage up. I’m like, you know, you have all of these. We call them photographers. Call them grip and grin, grip and grin pictures, people there like this with cell phones, and most of them are blurry and, you know, get the whole ceiling in, or, you know, just terrible shots. And they finally said, Okay, you can take your camera in and. So she was just sort of introducing the class, and I stayed against the wall, and I was trying to take pictures. I did that for about five minutes, and then I took my camera, I put it in the bag, and I never tried again. She couldn’t stand that camera being on her, and the energy that I got from her. I waited for her to warm up to it. It was just this. It was it’s weird because grip and grin and hugging somebody, okay. Video, okay, but me taking a professional shot. She wanted nothing to do with it. And again, that’s why you have the one of her with the blue shirt.

Mary Truitt
You know what I think that has to do with her being about the work and not about the person. Because if she was not communicating information, every word out of her mouth, communicating something important or information or history or whatever, she wasn’t happy. I don’t think, I don’t think she wanted to be a passive face. She was so, I mean, I don’t know if she had any Gemini planets in her chart, but she was all about the communication, you know, yeah, she was

Candace Craw-Goldman
you know, I’ve pondered that for a very long time, kind of what all that was, but all I know is I didn’t, that was it like I wouldn’t. I never, you know, never even tried again. But what I was trying to do was exactly what you were talking to me in that auditorium, which was, we need to record her while we still can. Yeah, no. And what I wanted with those photos wasn’t studio portrait photography. She always cared about her hair, by the way, oh, my god, she just do that until I get to the hairdresser, because she came from that, that era where those women are mothers, you know, they couldn’t possibly wash their own hair, you know, anyway, which I still find a very odd thing. But she, she was fine with the video tape that she just couldn’t. She just really couldn’t, couldn’t stand the photos. And, yeah, anyway, so there’s that. But I think she has arranged and blessed this upcoming documentary to help us all. And I can’t wait for it.

Mary Truitt
I’m very excited, very excited. Exciting. The second thing I was going to say about Dolores was that she would talk a lot, you know, if you know the Three Waves of volunteers, not you, but anybody watching, you know the third wave are the children and the indigo children, the Crystal Children, whatever. And I think that the fourth wave are now the non speaking autistic kids that were interviewed in the telepathy tapes. And I’m really working on this theory that I think autism is an evolutionary leap. And you know, she would always say these autistic kids are very special, but I don’t remember her ever saying why, but now we’re beginning to discover Candace. You’ve listened to the telepathy tapes, right?

Candace Craw-Goldman
I’m on Episode Two. I keep trying.

Mary Truitt
Just keep going. I mean

Candace Craw-Goldman
I mean I keep trying to plug it into my life. I guess I’m telling you,

Mary Truitt
by the time you get to the end, you know, I made a, I’m on Tik Tok a lot, which is kind of my thing is tick tock, not YouTube, not Instagram, or whatever. I found my audience at tick tock. And I did a, I did a tick tock on this because these kids, these non verbal, autistic kids, are connected not only to each other in a worldwide web, but to all the realms on the hill, on the hill, you know, and they blow us out of the water. I mean, I felt like I’ve been trying to, you know, expand people’s consciousness and support them and heal, do healing, and blah, blah, blah. And it’s like these kids, they’re going to blow us all out of the water. And I think that we all need to wake up and look at what this Autism means. And, you know, I don’t know, it’s just clearly blooming this whole field.

Candace Craw-Goldman
It’s amazing, isn’t it? I think actually the telepathy tapes may be one, you know, there are many things that have contributed to the awakening of humanity, including the, you know, the absolute tragedy that was COVID and all the things surrounding it, as awful as it was, it is woken people up. And I think this is too my biggest concern, though, is so many of them who are so incapable of in our current setup of society and capable of caring for themselves, that they have to have a team of people caring for them, so that those people don’t contribute in other ways. And we are headed towards unless something changes hugely. We’re headed towards bankruptcy. There’s so many of them that need teams of support just for everything to get through life exactly. Uh, we cannot sustain it. So I don’t see, I don’t see how that works itself out currently. I mean, I have to hope that that it does, because I have grandchildren, and I, you know, what else could I possibly do? I do know that our work is important. I do know that we are contributing and helping in that way somehow, even though I can’t see the map of that. But I think you’re right, and I think, you know, the new children

Mary Truitt
I think it’s a little bit messy right now, because it’s kind of like, you know, we’re going from this paradigm to that. I mean, just the fact that all the UFO stuff is coming out, you know, is to me, so incredible. I think that we are growing so fast as a society. I mean, you know, military people are looking at me and saying, Wait, this UFO stuff is real. And I’m like, yep, has been now for 1000s of years. So it’s like, I think our whole sense of what the world is and how it operates and how we can operate within it is changing so fast that it’s almost like watching, you know, a movie on speed for, you know, sped up 10 times.

Candace Craw-Goldman
Yeah, it’s, it’s really true, like, although it’s just yesterday, I did an interview with another practitioner, and she was talking about, she actually, this is amazing, and this will come out too, and you can watch it. But Nina Morocco, she actually had a kundalini awakening experience while she was a facilitating a session, interesting, an online session, she had a full blown knock her socks off, knock her over, Kundalini experience. It was fantastic. It was just fantastic to hear. So this is somebody not having a session on her. She’s facilitating, and it happens to her. But it gets even better, because while we’re talking about it, and I’m having her really, really explain what it felt like, and all that stuff, I’m sitting right in this chair. It happened just yesterday. And while she’s talking to me, I’m feeling and I’m starting to feel it right now on my left side, I feel the floor vibrating. I feel the chair vibrating, and I start feeling it come up my own spine. And she’s like telling me about how it was really root and sacral, that was the biggest movement and the biggest, you know, expanse, and with all of the energy and all that stuff and and I’m listening to all that, and I’m pondering even in my head, do I mention this while we’re talking, do I talk about the fact that I’m feeling this? And I go ahead and I mention it, and she says, Oh, my god, me too. So here, you know, people talking about a Kundalini rising, all we’re doing is talking about it, and we’re stirring it in us,

Mary Truitt
yeah, you know, it reminds me a little bit of when you get chills or goose flesh, you know that the I think it’s a beautiful physical reaction to it, you know?

Candace Craw-Goldman
And I’m having it right now, yeah, coming up wave after wave just Well, me remembering yesterday. And I always know it’s big when it hits my face. I mean, because I can get it, get it, get it. And then when it comes up, over and goes over and over my face, I know it’s big, and that’s happening right now. And while I’m doing, while I’m experiencing this. I’m looking at your face, and I’m seeing your face. Maybe it’s just my mind’s eye, but it’s getting rosier and rosier and bigger and bigger. Kind of like I I’m looking at your own energy is becoming Oh. And how interesting is that

Mary Truitt
I’m always, I’m always this color.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I took a flowers behind you, though the flowers behind you, there’s tulips and what’s

Mary Truitt
rose, roses.

Candace Craw-Goldman
So do you know that she chose, Nina chose a card before the session and talked about how much the Kundalini experience had to do with roses. Oh, wow. So look at even just this connection, yeah. And I didn’t even really look at those roses till I started seeing your face.

Mary Truitt
And also those roses were upstairs in my I’m on the sixth floor, which is where my office is, and I live on the 10th floor. And I brought the roses downstairs because I thought, oh, I want to be nice. It was my birthday yesterday, and I said, Oh, I’ll take those flowers down to my office. And so it was sort of a last minute you know thing again

Candace Craw-Goldman
the energy connection, right?

Mary Truitt
Yeah, incredible. Well, we better think about what we need to talk about. Because I think

Candace Craw-Goldman
anything you want.

Mary Truitt
Well, one thing that’s been really interesting me lately is the sort of parallel between the kinds of sessions. I had a session a couple of weeks ago where we didn’t go to any past lives or future lives or anything. It was simply the Galactic Council talking through my client for two hours. And you know, it was really interesting, because the kind of information that was coming through was all about how we’re meant to be living in the coming months and years. And the key word was community, over and over and over again. And then after that session, every time I listen to anybody talking about anything or whatever, everyone’s talking about community and different kinds types of community, whether it’s online or a tribal community or like minded or local, you know, farmers or whatever. But the thing about the communication that’s happening from the other side. So channelers is what I’m really thinking of, because they told her, the reason we came through today is because you’re going to be channeling us, and you’ll be remote viewing for us. You’ll be channeling you’ll be

Candace Craw-Goldman
it starts today,

Mary Truitt
yes, and they said you’ll be helping the police find missing children who’ve been trafficked. So the Galactic Council was getting really deeply involved in a lot of that stuff. But so what interests me is, if you look at the channelers, like, you know, Bashar or Paul Selig, or anything I’m interested in, the parallels to AI. So I think that this sort of weaving or blending of the human experience with the other realms is happening in so many different ways, whether it’s happening to us personally, you know, or Pamela, for example, who’s so amazing, her most recent galactic channeling was one of the best I’ve ever heard. I can’t quote it, but they gave her a beautiful description of what the purpose of life is. I’m going to have to go back and transcribe it, I think. But anyway, I I don’t have any particular idea that I want to put forth, except that I think that looking at AI and what we call channeling right now is a really interesting thing to look at.

Candace Craw-Goldman
This is bubbling up all over the place, in my own life and with other practitioners who are actually, let’s just say they’re dipping a toe into connecting with AI to boost that kind of thing. And then I just happen to see, I mean, you’re aware, I’m sure, and our listeners and viewers probably are also aware of Doreen Virtue. You know her story, Doreen Virtue so she, she had the the whole business that revolved around channeling angels for a while, and then students

Candace Craw-Goldman
yeah, but it was demon faith, yeah. She’s and she’s, she sticks to that story today. What’s interesting about that is a lot of stuff. Number one, it’s she and Dolores. They were friends. Well, I mean, they spent time together. They were at conferences together. Doreen was a speaker at one of Dolores transformation conferences. As a matter of fact, I think the the one I may have been 2008 or nine or something like that, alright, when I was first introduced and started working with Dolores, um, but I saw her, uh, talk about that, and she is just all over. Not that I see her anyway, but I know she is still tooting her own horn as it as it is that it’s all demonic, and she is specifically calling out AI and the Galactic Federation. I just find it’s interesting. It’s to me, it’s just so fascinating. It’s like she did this for the longest time, turn on a dime, and now calls it something else.

Candace Craw-Goldman
And I know you’ve seen, I saw it just this morning, a little bit of, let’s say the political punditry voices are talking about the Nephilim and their capture and things like that, and stuff that’s coming out in the more, let’s call it mainstream. But of course, you know, and that is that’s connecting to what they say is happening with the pyramids, you know, okay, I don’t know. There’s a lot of controversy around that. Is that really real? What they’re talking about, it’s coming out. Is it, is it, is it partially real? Is it skewed? Is it is it propaganda? Is it pushing an agenda? I mean, there’s so much happening right now. Out and my favorite way of looking at all of it, because I truly believe this is happening. We have to be and I think we are headed towards more transparency. It’s when people can freaking lie and conceal information that we all get in trouble. It’s very human. We’ve operated on it for the longest time. But if, if that becomes completely impossible, and doesn’t that sort of tend to happen, if telepathy and transfer of energy starts happening more too. So I think you’re right. I think we’re in a very messy place.

Mary Truitt
It’s messy and because people are messy, and we have to just sort of watch the storms, you know, go by and just kind of sit with our own intuition. And I always come back to what Paul Selig said. I can’t remember if it was in person or in one of his books, but he said, You need to learn how to discern between what you think and what you know, and the difference between what those two feelings feel like. So Well, I think this, but I know this, and it kind of is in a deeper part of your body what you know. But I also have to laugh, because one of my favorite lines from Bob Dylan is, all the truth in the world adds up to one big lie.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I mean, what kind of can’t argue with that, no

Mary Truitt
Where are you going to put your foot? Like we’re so I think truth lies. You know, the language is sort of every I mean, there’s another line from things fall apart, the Shinwa Chevy book which says there’s no story which is not true,

Candace Craw-Goldman
Also true. And then, you know, throw the Mandela effect in. Well, it was true yesterday, but is it true today? You know, you just have to laugh. I mean, you have to laugh. What else are you going to do? And I think that too, brings us to a more expansive place, but yeah, and, but a much messier place.

Mary Truitt
I want to say something else, which I think is really important right now, which is that we have entered the new era of Aquarius. And, you know, I don’t know enough about astrology to say the exact right planets and then whatever. But, you know, my understanding is that the congruency of people like us, where we’ve been, fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting the wind, you know, now the wind is behind us, and I think we’re all a little bit tired, you know, I know, for me, you know, when I worked in, I was a teacher for many years, and I was, you know, I began to do QHHT the minute I did my first class. Don’t ask me what year that was. I think it was 2005 maybe. But, you know, the minute I started doing that work, I created a little dinky website. I think it’s the same website of now, but I found out that some of my colleagues found it, and they would watch my videos and watch my read my blog and make fun of me all all the time at work, I found out my colleagues were all laughing at me, and, you know, at one point they came clean and said, Haha, we saw your website. You know, you’re completely insane. You know, you as lives aren’t real blah, blah, blah. And so a lot of us have faced real challenges with family members. And also, I think we all part of me, you know, has had to say to myself, am I crazy? Like, why do I this stuff? Am I crazy? Are they crazy? And there is such a feeling now of I really want to go back to my old job and say, like, huh, who’s laughing now? Like, have you seen the government hearings? You know, who turns out to be the fool now? But I think we have to acknowledge that people like us, the first waivers essentially have held, have held the ground,

Candace Craw-Goldman
yep, yep. We have, yeah. It’s true. It’s true. You have to, you know, and that is, that’s such a human thing again, you know, most people, there’s, there’s only one set of people who don’t care what other people think, and those people are called psychopaths, you know. And so people who and, and I’ll even say, Well, you know, I’m doing this, and it doesn’t matter me, what other people I still, of course, think, if you have empathy, if you have a heart, if you’re working with people, of course, you care what people think. You can’t go to the base, meaning, you know, lowest level of public opinion about some stuff, because it’s really ugly there, and you can’t be swayed by that kind of stuff. But truly, the only people who don’t care don’t have feelings at all either. So it’s, it’s huge societal pressure again. You know, we’re circling back all the way to the the first part of what we were talking about. To fit in, to do what the other people are doing, to do what the tribe’s doing, to do what everyone else is set. You know, that’s back to that 80% of people who, even if they’re like, well, that doesn’t quite make sense to me, but since eight out of 10 of us are doing it, that’s what I’m going to do too. Yeah, and that’s very, very human.

Mary Truitt
I talked I had a client yesterday who was telling me she was in her 60s, and she said her husband has said to her, you’ve gone off the deep end of your belief systems. And her two daughters have stopped talking to her. She wouldn’t back down. She said, I believe in this and I believe in that. And they said, you’ve joined a cult, you know? And so I don’t know. We’ll just be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Candace Craw-Goldman
Yeah, oh, yeah. I mean, what was it? Mark Twain, it’s easier to convince the people they were fooled than to fool them in the first place. Isn’t that his? It is. There’s a little of that going on right now too. People just don’t want to be wrong and they don’t want to think about how they could have thought about things differently. I mean, you know, I’m you just going to have to accept that through your life, you’ve made some really poor decisions. Here’s a poor decision I made. It wasn’t 23 in me, but it was the same company that did that kind of thing back then, my husband sent in a sample, and I thought that was, I mean, at the time, I was still, I was way too naive, thinking the best of people, you know, and I still try to think the best of people, but the, you know, I The idea that our DNA information is now, for those who participated in 20 that’s being auctioned off or sold off as as, you know, just just like cabinetry or land of a business going out of a business, this is, you know, it’s absolutely terrifying. We’re like so innocent sometimes, as humans, we’re like children. We can’t conceive that that that people would want to to take things or manipulate us in these really terrible ways that we absolutely been manipulated. You know, things happen.

Mary Truitt
Some of that has to do with the fact that you and I are both the first waivers, which means we’re not good human beings. You know, we don’t, we literally don’t understand. And also, some of it is privilege. I mean, you know, we are white, Anglo, Saxon, you know, women with roofs over our heads and education and you know, so much of the world doesn’t have the privilege of being able to say, oh, man, I’m so surprised people are cruel and mean and horrible, because so much of the world is under such horrible, inhumane conditions, and so, you know, for us, it’s kind of naive. I feel sometimes that I’m very naive to not believe in I don’t want to call it evil, because I don’t believe that evil exists. I believe that blocking the good exists, or blocking light exists. I don’t believe that evil is an entity. But we’re lucky that we can believe that. You know, Anne Frank, I guess, said, even with all the evil she’d seen, she thought people were essentially good.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I think that’s true. And you know, it just it takes you back to the Milgram experiment. You know somebody in authority telling you what’s what? You know. You know that I’ve said this before. I know in another interview somewhere, but I remember because I remember about how old I was. I didn’t have a car yet, but I think I was thinking about cars. So I got my driver’s license when I was 14, and I pretty much needed a car right away. And I know that doesn’t happen these days,

Mary Truitt
when she was like 13 or 12 or something,

Candace Craw-Goldman
yeah, yeah, and yeah, and I was, I knew that I would have some freedom and and freedom, basically, for me, meant to work so that I could, you know, take care of my horse. So everything was bad horses, even back then, but I remember seeing this car with a bumper sticker on it. And the bumper sticker was question authority.

Mary Truitt
Oh, yeah, everybody had that bumper sticker. This is, like, you know, this is 1970 television question, yeah, I but I remember.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I remember standing in the driveway. I don’t remember whose car it was, but it’s somebody who was at our house for one reason or another, and I stared at that bumper sticker for the longest time. It made a huge impression on me. And isn’t that crazy? But I think it did. It really changed me. It didn’t. It didn’t completely have me put life through that lens, but it

Mary Truitt
Its job shows you how powerful just two words can be, right, you know? And I think this is so this is a funny story. I don’t know if I’ve ever told you this before. When I was about 10 years old, Alan Watts came and lived at our house for about six months.

Candace Craw-Goldman
You should have waited till I swallowed.

Mary Truitt
my father was a journalist, and we spent a lot of you know, he was in he was stationed, not stationed. He was he worked in San Francisco where I was born, and became very good friends with Alan Watts at that point. And towards the end of Alan Watts his life. I think this is probably two or three years before he died. He came and lived with us in Washington, DC, for a few months. I can still see him walking around the house in his bathrobe, holding a cup of it was a mug. I don’t think coffee was in it. I think it was whiskey or something. But he so he left behind a bunch of presents for the kids, and one of them was a bumper sticker, and I had it on my car for years. It was neon green, and it said in black block letters, this is it. And at the bottom there was a little tiny line that said metaphysical bumper sticker by Alan Watts. And I’ve looked online to see if they still make them. I thought about reissuing them. I mean, I just thought, let’s do it.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I could easily do that. I’ll, let’s do it. I’m so amazed at this story. Did you because you have some nice pictures? Did you guys get photos?

Mary Truitt
there probably are some photos somewhere. One really funny thing happened was we had an enormous Kenneth Noland painting in our living room that was a target, you know, targets. And then we also had these amazing era bow and arrows, bows and arrows from the Yanomamo tribe, because my mother’s and father’s very good friend Tobiah, had been living with the yanamamo, and he brought us. He always brought us back presents we had, like a poison pipe that the kids would always play with, where you would throw do like poison darts with it anyway. So Helen Watts one day noticed that if my sister was standing holding the bow and arrow, that the exact point of the arrow matched up with the center of the ken Noland painting. So we have a series of my sister so young, so just holding this arrow in front of the ken Nolan painting. But I don’t, I don’t have any pictures of Alan Watts, my brother or sister might from those days, but, you know, eventually, after a few months, my mother said to my father, he’s got to go, like he’s too he’s got to go. I think by the end of his life, he was a little bit in trouble.

Candace Craw-Goldman
we see that with somebody with a mind like that, I could, I could definitely see that he is one of my absolute favorites. Oh, I didn’t know that. Wow. Oh, my god, yeah. Actually, that’s astonishing that you could say this. And you know, I know we’re completely out of time. Now, the idea that you know back even again to the first part of our conversation, you got to be in that energy, in those in that energy of his profound thinking, even if it, you know, it’s just wow,

Mary Truitt
yeah, someday we’ll have to talk about my childhood. I went to nursery school at the White House with the Kennedys.

Candace Craw-Goldman
I think you might have told me that before.

Mary Truitt
Probably have talked about that. I mean, I don’t know. I feel like Forrest Gump. Sometimes I’ve ended up like in the right place at the right time, meeting so many people, being able to be in their energy or, you know, talk to them, or whatever.

Candace Craw-Goldman
So much again, even this morning, I heard that there’s some new information coming out again, transparency, some tapes about the aftermath of JFK is assassination. Some new audio tapes have been been released. Just in the last few hours. I know I was talking Lyndon Johnson,

Mary Truitt
yeah. I mean, that’s kind of an old theory, right, yeah? But these,

Candace Craw-Goldman
as far as I know, these public tapes that are on these tiny, little voice cassette, things are coming out. I just, I just just blew through on a social media thing on my while I’m while I’m getting ready for this. I mean, it’s just sort of, you know, sometimes that little bits of information that come in, Mary, this has been fascinating. Let’s do it again very soon. Let’s, i. So much to talk about. I know we can talk forever and ever, over and over again, so we’ll just go ahead and book another time in the future and continue from there. Okay, alright, alright. Take care. Candace, thank you so much. So for those of you out there who are service to others, practitioners, think about joining us at QuantumHealers com. Most of us do the kind of work Mary and I do, QHHT, BQH, that kind of stuff. But not all of us. We are alternative healers, practitioners of any kind. Love to have you. We are guru free. We don’t tell you what to do or what to believe. We just support each other in a very great let’s just end it with this word community. So thank you so much. Go to QuantumHealers.com. Bye everyone.