Layers, Marks and the Myth of Earth

Layers, Marks and the Myth of Earth

Published Monday August 19, 2024 by Candace Craw-Goldman

Alternative Healing ,Beyond Quantum Healing

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This Quantum Conversation is between two Quantum Healers who are also artists! The conversation takes us into art, but also into a session where Nicole Dement acts as facilitator in a BQH Session where Candace is “client.” This session happened during the BQH Immersion event in Spring of 2024.

Find Nichole Dement on our Quantum Healers Directory:

https://quantumhealers.com/practitioner/nichole-dement/

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Transcript

That and in that place where he was from, they didn’t really know if we were real. They were wondering we were some kind of figment of the imagination. And the experience of being in this density, in that love, in the experience of what it is to be human at that level, oh, it’s just so profound. And, and to go back as this scout and to share that experience, yeah, is, is more than if, if that, well, I, I wouldn’t take, want to take away the whole experience of that, being a child growing up to being an adult and and within all of those experiences. But for that entity going back to that planet or place where he was from, where he came from, where they said that other children are coming from too, he’s one of a few that have come through. Yeah, but to have that experience alone of what it means to be human really boils down to the essence of what being human is.

Calm with another quantum conversation today with a dear friend, Nicole DeMent, Hi, Nicole. Hi Candice. Thank you so much for having me on I thank you so much for being here. So I’m going to have Nicole introduce herself, and then we’ll get right to all the other things we plan on talking about.

I am a quantum healer. I love that phrase, quantum healer because it encompasses so many possibilities, which is exactly what I need.

I am an artist.

I worked in the arts since the 90s, so you can do the math.

I also do BQH and I read the Akashic records. I am a I think I came out of the womb doing astrology. So it’s just a framework of which I live by. So all of the Aquarian and Iranian sort of ideals of consciousness, and the exploration of consciousness is really what drives all of the different things that I do. There’s also a left side to my brain, and I run a nonprofit. So again, lots of different things, but I call myself a quantum healer.

Well, I need to know a little bit more about you as the artist. Most of our viewers probably heard me refer to this before, but I mean, I went to college in, you know, in

even earlier than that, like in the 80s, in the early 80s, early early 80s, I went to college for drawing and painting, graphic design a little bit, and then switched over to drawing and painting. And, you know, why not graphic design

Nicole? Because there was too many freaking rules, and you had to be too perfect. And back then you had to do these perfect things. It was like, if you can’t use an exacto knife and cut film perfectly, if you can’t rule perfect lines every time you’re going to have a problem. I mean, there was no such thing as computers. There was no such thing as cut and paste. There was no such thing as rendering it was all done by hand. And the I, although I was a perfectionist, the exacting nature of the execution, if, you know, if you, if you did it for the 29th time, and you were just kind of blowing it to dry, and you put a little bit of moisture on your, you know, hot press board. You’ve just ruined it. You have to start over. That made me crazy. So I went into drawing and painting, big, messy drawing and painting. But I’d like to know what and how you studied early on.

You know, I went to the Evergreen State College, which is not an art school at all. Some would say it’s not even a school. It is, but they go about things very differently. I think you’re seeing the thread of what works for me. Let’s just do it differently. I agree with you that if it’s a pristine anything, it’s not for me. I want to be very messy and just allow the energy to move, and it doesn’t move in straight lines, does it? I completely understand.

So photography is one of the first tools, I think, that we all experience. I didn’t grow up in a way that art was really a part of my life. So Democrat photography. So democratic, everybody has something that they can do with it and and it was just the tool that I used when I first took the first when I took the first class at Evergreen. It had a component where you could express yourself based on what you were studying. And.

I just fell right in,

and the dark room became the place that I spent most of my time all four years of undergrad.

I used to sandwich negatives, and I would paint and scratch the negatives, and then I know to can you imagine how fun that would be. I put lipstick on the negatives, like whatever I was had around me that I could screw it up as what I did so definitely align with your no straight lines. And then when I left college, I needed the layers. I needed those layers. And so what I found was that still using my photographs and printing them on a very thin rice paper, and then when you use what’s called encaustic, which is beeswax and resin with sometimes pigment, you can paint that on, and then fuse it, which may basically means applying heat, and then it makes it very thin, so you can have you can build up layers within your piece, and you can paint any sort of organic material, from gouache to watercolor to oil. Paint can be used with the photographs. And that’s a very brief introduction to what I do now. That’s just the technical parts. There’s always, you know, the other layers which are more spiritual. That’s so fantastic. So of course, I can apply all the words you just said to quantum healing, and I can understand that. And some of the the most fascinating quantum healers do have an artistic bent, or find themselves very creative in that way too. And I’ve, you know, I’ve taken note of that over, over the years, and most artists, or most creative or writers or actors, most of those people tend to adapt well as clients as well. You know, having this experience without, without too much, you know, trouble. Let’s say, you know, allow it. So of course, it’s all about the imagination and and sort of accessing that in whatever avenue that you know may be in front of you or that you’re interested in right now. So here’s something interesting for me and my own painting, in my own work, you know, you’re saying layers and and, and the artist in myself is saying and for me, you know what it was for me that was some of the most interesting things about painting and drawing was the authentic human mark. The authentic human mark, because there were many, and there still are many people who I, you know, I’m doing this painting, and they paint something, and they may be human, and they may be making marks, but those marks are devoid of life, repetitious. They’re

trying to copy something else. They’re trying to I mean, there’s a lot of different ways. And I’m not saying my own work doesn’t have and didn’t have and still cannot have some of that, because it certainly does. But as my perpetual search for the organic,

you know, pure mark of the human meaning, there’s something so the crux of what it is to be human, and I think that a mark you can for me. Anyway, when I went to an art show yesterday, I went to an art show yesterday, and I am, and probably you tell me, if you’re this way, I’m kind of a snob almost everywhere, as far as looking at art, I would never spouse spout off to anybody in any sort of way that would be uncaring, unfeeling or even not acknowledging anything. But there’s very little out there that moves me, that stops me in my tracks that I look at it, and I’m like, why is that so interesting? Why is that capturing me?

And I can go through a show in in a minute, and just like, I don’t even need to be here, I don’t even want to be here. And then I really wonder how and why that person is in is is on those walls, you know? And what is it about everything? Meaning, what am I not seeing? What are they seeing? Maybe that I’m not seeing. What anyway, my, my, my true passion of looking at things is, is yours that way too. Nicole,

you know, I have been in the art world for a long time, almost as long as well, since I really, you know, went to school and did got into photography seriously and

and also, there’s always been this parallel track of running nonprofits and being in nonprofit.

Profits and being a curator, and so I really understand the paradigm of how artists have been controlled and creativity has been controlled, and it’s very hard to break out of that matrix as an individual that needs to commodify something and to, you know, make a buck, and we deserve as artists, as creatives, to thrive, and so I want to support everyone in thriving. Yeah, and it’s hard to make your own mark, because often it’s outside of what people know and see as what capital A art is, or some museum designs, it to be okay. You know, it’s really difficult to be authentic in that way. And that’s why I love you, because you are so authentic in and breaking the rules, and all the things I mean beyond quantum healing alone is breaking the rules.

And I admire that. So I I I feel deeply art, and I know that there’s something behind it for someone, even when they’re trying to make that dollar and make it fit within the look that they think will make that dollar. So I try and feel that, and try and be open to who the person and who that real mark is because it’s still, it’s still an offering, it’s still a journey, and it’s still I get, I get that. And it’s almost like, sometimes it’s hard to find it, but, and you can kind of see it right? And it’s, it’s the same, like, when artists like, well, I want to try to do this for a while. And the support behind was like, Well, you can’t do that. You’re known as this, you can’t, oh, that’s tough, isn’t it? Yeah, yeah. And we’re so many things. We’re so many things in the quantum work and the regression work has proven that to me, yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s often I know too much at this point, you know what I love so much. You know, I’m not sure I’d heard you talk about your artwork, well, really, at length at all before, which is why this is a conversation I’ve looked forward to so much. But this fact that you even use the word layers, right? I mean, that’s what people are, and it’s all the different layers of people, and it’s all the different experiences we’ve had, and all the different combinations and and, yes, it’s just fascinating. I I’m I’m just thrilled so so for our viewers, our listeners out there,

Nicole has come twice now to Kansas, and really got to know her well the second time she’s come to the immersion class that we have here, in the in person, sort of in depth experience of BQ H in Kansas that we have two or sometimes three times a year. It’s mostly been two times a year.

But I wanted to talk to her today a little bit about what that was like, and especially because we shared a session that I want to talk about, and there’s some layers in there too.

Absolutely, yeah, excuse me. The I’m all choked up about it, the immersions are amazing. I mean, not only are, is everyone well taken care of in all the layers of who we are, the food is amazing.

The environment is open and welcoming.

But the healing that happens and the community that comes together, that’s why I keep coming back, is that I really love the community, and I just want to absorb everything you know too, so

Well, every everything that everybody else knows, I learned. I learned so much myself. I sit there and I just think these people have all flown, most of them, in to be here. I feel so lucky myself, like you all have come to me, because I can’t get very far. And do do a lot of that, but more and more layers there, too, right? The supporting the growth that that we’ve seen in people from day one to day five. You know, sometimes we’ll just knock you over some of that. It’s very obvious and and it’s such a celebration, and especially this very last group we had,

the cohesiveness between the members of this particular group was, I don’t see how that can I don’t see how we can top that. I mean, of course, we’ll, we’ll see what happens next as always. But it was, it was fantastic. So yeah, one of the ways that all of these things come together energetically, kind of brings us to the topic of this session. So what we do in immersion very often

is, well, of course, we swap sessions, but there’s enough of us there, meaning I’m there, and usually helpers, other people.

Donna McMurtry and Diana dare have been my wonderful assistants

in almost every class. I think there’s been one or two that they didn’t show up for, but I’m very blessed to have them show up. And what we do, even though we have enough people to swap sessions every time, sometimes the morning session has taken out, shall we say, a player for a swap in the afternoon. Meaning, you know, some people have a lot to process, or it was just so big, or they’re simply, you know, that their energy has has gone elsewhere, or they need to integrate. I mean, there’s a lot of things like that that can happen. And such a scenario came up one of the days, and Nicole was poised and ready to give a session without anyone to give a session to. And there I was,

and I said, I’ll do it. And I was very happy to do that, and that’s what I want to talk about next. But to set the stage for this,

I want to talk about that I had, I’d been having a physical issue running up to the first of the class. Had it throughout the entire class. It was even it was obvious, not maybe to absolutely everyone, but certainly the most sensitive in the class. There are people like, what’s up with you, what’s wrong with you? What’s going on? I had an abdominal

thing going on. What was the thing? Well, it was very strange. I didn’t know what, what it was.

Still couldn’t quite tell you, although we got big hints in the in the in the regression that we did, but it was just, it was almost like a pulse or a spasm, but it was very regular, and it was very, very pinky and very strange. And I didn’t really it was unfamiliar that, not that my body’s unfamiliar and those things, but the presentation of this was like, Well, I’m not sure what that is. And I had even said before this session, I told, I told my husband, I said, you know, it’s kind of like,

it seems almost like a signal, because it was so regular. It was like, it was like a some sort of signal or beacon thing, because it just, it was like, if you have, if you pilots will know this, if you turn a transponder on or anything like that, and it just regularly sends out a signal, and it was like, this thing, and it was just going, E, D, D in me. And I’m like, Okay.

And it wasn’t top of mind when we were going to do the session, but as we were preparing, it seemed like, okay, yeah, okay. And so I didn’t, did you just see that flash? Did you see that flash? I did see that flash. Yeah, we got a flash

regular, and there’s and the whole regression, there’s a flash too. So

Nicole was in the in the bedroom where we were going to because we did this at a lake house. So there was multiple bedrooms, multiple sessions going on. She was already in there

with an observer, and

I was in the restroom. I still didn’t know. I didn’t have a sense of what, what was going to happen. It’s completely last minute. Yeah, it was completely Yeah. I mean, I had all Yeah, all of like, two minutes to think about. I’m like, Well, I better go to the bathroom first. And so just while I was in there, and while I was washing my hands, I then I knew, like while I was washing my hands, I knew what was going to happen and what, what wanted to come forth and express itself. A little bit, was actually the soul of one of my nil mids babies. Okay, what’s nil mids Now I lay me down to sleep and I do the infant bereavement photography. Now I have been doing this for many years, all the way since 2008 for as long as I’ve been doing this work, regression work, too. It all kind of happened at the same time. So I have taken many, many, many photos of babies who have passed in the womb, or who passed shortly after birth, and a particular one

sort of descended in the in my energy field while I was washing my hands. And then I made it into the room. And now I want you to tell me what it was like for you in getting into the session. Just

how did, how did you receive this, and, and, and what, what was my presentation, and all of that.

Well, you’re extremely connected. The one thing I really liked about working with you is because I have been called a push button client,

because it doesn’t really take any sort of progression, or I’m connected. And so it was great to work with you as another push button client. I got to experience what it’s like on the other side. So, but holding that space for you was incredible. I mean.

But

there’s so many layers to it. I am recognizing you shared that there was something going on with you physically. So of course, I’m thinking, you know, okay, we’re going to hold space for that to be cleared and cleansed in any way that’s appropriate for whatever’s happening, so making sure that that was there, and then also holding on to the dialog that was coming through and this other being and and I did not know what,

what I knew you had been doing that work, but I did not know that that being was going to come through in any way and then trying to navigate and hold space for whatever that being needs as well. And we’re not going to, you know, there’s just so many layers to it, and I’m always holding the highest vibration to make sure that everyone is safe and protected and healed, I mean, and at that quantum level, we can’t assume that what is healing for you is or, and then there’s this other being that needs the healing as well, or is is wanting to just, I’m not sure it was healing as much as just being heard, right? Expression, yeah, expression, expression, right? So I just love this that the screen flashed, because the way, the way the whole session ended up starting was I found myself in a twilight scene here on our farm in the place that we call our star platform, and we have this kind of wooden structure. It’s very simple, but it’s just kind of built up. If you can imagine the pickup truck come back into kind of a three sided box, shall we say? You know, it’s all open and everything, and then at the top is a platform,

and we can haul a mattress up there, a queen size mattress. And

it’s been a while since we’ve been able to do that, but, but we do that to watch the Milky Way, to get away from even our house lights so it seems dark, and yeah, and you can see you can actually on on the right kind of night. We’re far enough away from the city that that you can actually see the Milky Way. And we’ve had a lot of, yeah, gosh, we’ve had a lot of interesting experiences out there. And many years ago, long before I was even a grandmother, long before Lauren was ever pregnant with our first,

there was this flash of light, this huge flash of light that didn’t correspond to anything that Thome or I knew about, nothing like a meteor, nothing like that. It was sort of like, I mean, really, what it looked like Nicole. It looked like the heavens just opened up. It just was like, it was like this.

It really was like, if, if, if there was a dome or something, you know, of stars and of what the cosmos is. It was like it was opened up in a place, and it just had this big opening, and this light came through. And we were both like, what the heck even was that? Because we’ve seen meteors before, and I’ve seen videos of them, and I know what that is. And of course, we’ve seen strange things and lights and other things moving, but nothing like this flash had we ever seen. I contemplated that for a long time, and I got some information that I have yet to kind of research, and remember what I said? This was long time ago. This was 2011 maybe something like that, so a long time ago,

but I did get a name attached with it, something, some sort of information, some sort of thing coming through,

but this was the thing that presented itself at the first of the session,

and it was like, Well, what does that have to do with

this baby? And to be clear, I’ve sometimes gotten some information from some of these children on my way to the hospital, right? Yeah, I hadn’t even, I don’t even know who’s there. Yet I don’t. Often I don’t know the story on my way there. And yet, sometimes, while I’m driving, and that driving space is a interesting, you know, trance like state to to connect. Sometimes I’ll get information in about, you know, the purpose of,

maybe, if not the whole thing, but what I need to know to understand what I’m getting ready to face and to deal with, and it’s never been wrong, and it’s not all of them at all, no, not at all.

But this particular story had to do with a a

baby that lived for a little while and was able to, for very short amount of time, spend time with its family and its siblings before it passed in the hospital. And I’m not going to go into details of any kind, but

that’s the energy that wanted to come through and talk. Do

you remember what it said about.

What that Flash was.

I’m, I’m not sure if you remember, you could say

it was, it was a portal. It was a portal. And so the whole idea, the whole idea that, in the whole story that this, this baby, wanted to express, was how long and how far and how much effort it took for this energy to come to even get to that portal, which was some sort of highway that some souls could use to come to the planet to experience things on the planet, including human and this particular soul came from a world, yes, where they were not physical. And there was a lot of that going on in the

in the whole immersion class this,

yes,

there was, yeah, there was a lot of that. And it really, it really, really was and, and the really, the most interesting thing for so this was sort of like an explorer. This was an explorer soul. He was a scout. That’s exactly what it was. Yes, yes, he said he was a scout. And because from where they were, they weren’t physical, and they this concept of family, like a nuclear family,

yeah, they it was like, What even is that? Yeah, it was that was, that’s what I recall so deeply, is just that love and who that family held that baby so close in that love it was just this. Loved it, yeah, loved it so much for the short time that this baby was alive, including siblings, got to hold this baby, and the whole drama unfolding that happened in that room was and you know, you cannot be a part of society without thinking about some things like, you know, no judgment here, but I’m going to say it, you know, things like late term abortions, right? Or those kinds or abortions at all. Here was a soul who wanted, needed, contracted with these other souls.

Knew from the very beginning

that there, there, they were only capable of sustaining physical life for the briefest of time. Yeah, and because of, yeah, because of, I think, I think that may be one of the most interesting things when, when we do this work, this quantum healing work, we think about souls coming and being and having lives. They’re not all it’s not all the same energy. It doesn’t all come from the same place. And that energy cannot animate, you know, Dad’s upstairs is going to be 94 in September. They can’t animate that long in a physical form. We’re really special. Nicole, you know, yeah, yeah. We really, really are,

I feel it

that we can hold grateful, that we can hold life in this density. And, you know, healers, people, we talk about this all the time, but this is what it is. This particular soul was like, Yep, I can hold that density for this many minutes, wow, this many minutes, right? And it wasn’t long. And the experience of that, it’s so difficult for us to say that that wasn’t enough, but that was really the experience that was needed. Because another thing, if I may, that that you shared was that you shared of him speaking that truth is

that, and in that place where he was from, they didn’t really know if we were real.

They were wondering we were some kind of figment of the imagination, and the experience of being in this density, in that love, in the experience of what it is to be human at that level, oh, it’s just so profound. And and to go back as this scout and to share that experience, yeah, is, is more than if, if that I, I wouldn’t take, want to take away the whole experience of that, being a child growing up to being an adult and and within all of those experiences, but for that entity going back to that planet or place where he was from, where he came from, where they said that other children are coming from two he’s one of a few that have come through, yeah, but to have that experience alone of what it means to be human really boils down to the essence of what being human is, is that love and the capacity that we have to live in this really dense, hard.

Environment. And there’s no other situation I can think of that’s potentially more difficult than what that mother and family and even the siblings went through that human experience of

being with that that little one and holding all that love at the same time, so much grief and that that’s the epitome of life itself, right? It’s, yeah, it’s, it’s just a crescendo that is, I’m so blessed and honored to do this work. I remember Nicole, he used the the word myth. He said, a lot of a lot of people think of

Earth and life and in the physical as a myth.

Yeah, yeah. And now he knows Earth is a myth that may be, you know, maybe that’s going to be part of the titles somehow,

yes. And of course, I’m very aware, even though I had,

you know, very brief and very appropriate kinds of conversations with the parents, and I couldn’t know anything. The issue with this child wasn’t a surprise, meaning,

what knowledge I did know this, this person almost, I mean, their family almost certainly knew from the very, very beginning. So you can imagine those kinds of scenarios, right? And in our society right now, and you wouldn’t blame anybody for saying, this child has absolutely no capacity to sustain life outside the womb. And it’s like no way you know, because of this, you know, they just not, they’re, you know? And so do you know that the option had to have been given, well, we can just terminate this pregnancy early, and

that’s the I’ll never sit down with this mother or this family and hear that story. And yet,

that story was filling every inch of that room, right, every inch of that room where I was, and that was some of the being expressed in that session.

That layer of that right, yeah,

there were, there are so many layers, and I think there’s still layers. You know, we are energetic beings that are receiving and giving, and what is it that spiritually, energetically, emotionally, you’re receiving when you go into those rooms? And that’s what I was thinking, you know? What maybe Had you taken on that still needed to come through for you, right? I was the beacon, the beacon thing and, and what it really was was it was just it was a place. I mean, I maybe, you know, almost 63 but it was a place in my 62 year old womb. It was, it really was. It was like baby, it was a homing beacon.

Yeah, for that energy to come through, and talk about the flash and coming through and having that, that experience. And you, you, you held the space so brilliantly. And we had,

we had an observer too, which, yeah, and she was also holding space, yeah, and her story, right? Her story,

yeah, how that layer added

to what was going on in that room? Yeah, these things are these things are fascinating. And

I felt such an alignment, really, with everybody who shows up, that such a such an amazing connection, but,

but the artist in you, I started having some dreams, and I think kind of daydreams and everything every I think most people know I, you know,

right, right on the other side of this wall is

I’ve got an easel, and

yes, and there it sits, kind of waiting for me, and I lamenting and longing to to be able to use it. And I put that little bit of an idea into Nicole’s mind, and happily, she was very receptive to it. And then I had dreams, and I had some other things, and then she did this thing. And I’m going to let you tell everyone what you did, and I’m glad we have photos and videos, because I’m going to splice them in as you talk about it. So tell me everything about how we got together to dip our toe into this collaboration. Because, no, it was small, but I was so big. For me, it was very small, and I was almost tentative to even propose it, because it was so small, but I but it came to me, and I know that I asked to be led by spirit in all that I do, and that it’s in the quantum healing work. It’s in the.

Art that I do, and so I had this hit, this ping that you know, and found out later you also had the same ping, but I had this first before you told me that there was like two sides to something, like you could do one side and I could do another, but then I’m working on this project for a big fundraiser for the Seattle Art Museum. They had asked me to make decorations for a table. So that’s where, you know, granted Seattle Art Museum, but very small decorations for a table. But I have this idea to make, to take animals and and then channel through the Akashic records, or through just tuning in, what is the message that this animal wants to say to the person that finds them at the table? And so I wanted it to be healing, and spirit was guiding me to do this. And so I had a picture of a horse. So I all my work is from

photographs. And I, I know, you know, your hickory has been such a big part of your life and your social media feeds, and I’ve been tracking that, and I’ve been to the farm and seeing all the lovely animals that you have. And so I thought, Well, I wonder I was going to make them two sided. I thought, I wonder if, if Candace could do one side and then I could do another one. I thought, Well, I’m gonna, I’m gonna throw it out there, because Spirit is driving this. And you were very excited. So we did this collaboration of a hickory on one side, and then another horse face photograph that I had done on another on the other side. And then you participated with some messages maybe that were coming through and, and you’ve got that to read too. I do. I i opened the records for the entity, the spirit of the horse, to come through and, and I just went with what came through. But if you want, I’ll read it. Oh, absolutely. And while you’re reading it, well, I’ll, I’ll edit in a little video and some of the images of what we created. And so take it away. Take it away.

Spirit of the horse,

I offer my big heart to you now with enthusiasm and clarity of focus, we are seekers of the truth. The past is no longer and you can be free to drink from the new

be of clear mind and heart, to know, act and speak your truth.

You can step forward with confidence, and I will carry you when and wherever your desires lead us, follow no one and be free.

How perfect is that? Show, show the show the cart too. So you had, you had this, there you go. So you had this next to the decorations that we’ve showed, yeah, and you had one of those for each one of the each one of the place settings. And you had, like, a butterfly and a bear. And what other kind of animals did you have there? I had a so, there was a tiger, there was a butterfly, there was a moth, both had their own messages, which were really beautiful and interesting. And there was a goat. There was an orangutan.

That was fun, of course, we had the horse, right. There was tonight. Now I’m losing track. There was a bear, I think a bee. Was there a bee? No, there was a ladybug. Oh, a ladybug. Okay, a ladybug had a beautiful message about good luck. One thing I remember was it saying good luck. The idea of good luck is for those that second guess whether they’re right on or not. Ladybug came to tell you that you got this like there was just no good luck. You need. You are it?

I apologize to the animals that I cannot remember in this moment,

and you got to go to this dinner. So I have a couple more questions. I know we’re running out of time, and we both got other things. We’ve got to come up and get ourselves too, yeah, but you got to see who sat at that place. I was so excited. Let’s just say that I was probably more excited about who sat there than other people who sat there. So,

you know, the thing is, we, we cannot have any expectations about what spirit wants to happen? And there were people at the table, so the masks were for people to take. They actually didn’t take the masks. But what I found, and what I loved, was that, you’re right. I had these little messages in a little bag, and there was a crystal in there, and there was a little sacred geometry stick.

Were in a feather boa. No one wanted the feather boas. So that says everything about the group at the table. They were like, No to the feather boas. The masks are beautiful. And I did get some feedback. They really loved the table. Really did. And they took the messages.

They several of them took the messages.

It’s the most really, it really was a couple people actually took some crystals too, which I was so grateful for. And and then what happened afterwards? After they left their table, a lot of the other artists were left. And as you mentioned, first first off was it’s so great to work with artists because we have that open free, that freedom as the horse draws us to

to express and to think and to be beyond boundaries of a straight line or a crooked line or whatever no line. And so a lot of the other artists that I know and love, you know, really resonated with some of the pieces. And so I got to be the one to say here, this is obviously for you. The wolf was another one that I didn’t mention, and a really great artist that I love, her work and her ideas are so there’s so much synchronicity between the ways that we think, but we’re representing in two different ways. But we got to sit together, and we were talking about the whole project and her ideas, and she definitely needed the wolf. The wolf had her message, and so I did not second guess what was meant to go to someone else. So afterwards, the accurate people, the right people, found the messages and the spirit animal that was calling to them.

Card readings, right? It’s all, it’s all like card reading. It’s, it’s so perfect. And you know, one thing I want to mention too, is,

you know, absolutely, absolutely everyone has in their birthright as a human should feel like they can be free, all of us. You know, artists aren’t special in that way. We just, we just poke harder I think, or insist louder or longer or something. There’s, you know, there’s something often I know in myself can be obnoxious about that, just to kind of end the insistence of it. But it’s really, it’s really for all humans, you know, I know this is kind of off topic, but not really. I had a early morning meeting with my daughter, and she, I mean, really early, like the sun was rising early because she’s in Japan, and that’s that’s our crossover time. Anyway, the first thing she says to me was she’s like, I really love my daughter. Now she has two, but she’s almost always talking about the middle one, Ilona, who’s named after me, who is, well, let’s just say there’s a lot that she takes after her, her grandma, mom, and

she says, I really love my daughter. And I’m looking at her face. I don’t even have to ask which one she goes, but, and then she goes, but she goes,

she does not have a singing voice. She does not have a singing voice, is what she was saying. And we both talked about it for a little bit. This wasn’t a new thing,

but we did talk about it. And what she was saying, really, was this.

She was feeling Ilona absolutely free to sing at the top of her lungs.

And my daughter, a natural born musician, is, you know, there’s some, there’s some edges of her nerve fibers that are, that are not, you know, taking it the correct way, because, that’s because the girl does not have much of an ear, at least not yet. She’s still young. Let’s just say maybe that’ll change. Anyway, what I loved so much, and as a mother and a grandmother loved so much was yet, she’s free to do it, isn’t she? Nobody yet has squashed the thing in that child that says you’re not good enough at this, so you need to stop. And so many people do that to humans in terms of visual art, right? And it’s and one of the most cruel things there there can be. And I feel the same way about singing. I don’t sing well at all either. But when I’m out far away from the barn on a horse and nobody can hear me, sometimes that’s when I sing too. I sing Cowboy Junkies. In case you want to know, that’s my my go to is,

if I knew a cowboy junkie song right now, I’d say, let’s do it.

Oh, I was here. I would say, too, but, but we’re out of time. One of the things that convenient, yes, one of the things though, that Nicole and I are going to do is we’re going to do more, more collaboration, and I want to riff off of and we’ve already spoken about.

This a little bit. I want to riff off of our combined session and then maybe, maybe swap sessions in the future and see where we go next. And so for those of you out there who don’t know what this is, a diptych, is when I’m just going to pick up some papers here, but it’s when there’s like, a canvas here and a canvas here, and you put them together here, and it’s a single piece, but it’s into that’s a diptych. And so my my idea, although the Nicole’s was one side and the other side of the mask, for our first foray into a collaboration, I’m suggesting we do a diptych and maybe with a

singular piece to riff off of, and that singular piece have something to do with this session and well, I’ll get back to you on that. But those of you out there who are quantum healers and artists, I’d love to hear your suggestions about what you could think of that would be inspiring or creative to do within or around a session. Here’s one, Allison co doodles during her BQ, H sessions. You know a lot of people then do soul paintings. After a session, there’s there’s other things you can do. I’d love to hear your ideas. Will you? Will you let us know before and Nicole, will you tell everyone how to find you, both your art and you as a practitioner. And of course, you’re found on quantum healers com. But beyond that, where can people find you and what you do? Thank you so much. Candace. You your generosity of spirit and ideas and the freedom that you have given us all is something that I can’t thank you enough for. I thank you so so much of what I do is is fed by the work that I do, that you’ve really supported all of us in, in understanding and allowing the freedom of who we are to come through, and more of the freedom of who I am comes through at perfect my name Nicole dement.com, that’s N, I, C, H, O, L, E, dement.com, and my healing side is cosmic, creative life.com.

I love that. It’s just too perfect. It’s too perfect. Will you come back? Let’s do this again, but let’s see what else we can maybe create and talk about before we do it. Hardly wait. Me too. Thank you for spending some of your Saturday with me. A pleasure.

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