Love, Healing or Creation?

Published Saturday May 25, 2024 by Candace Craw-Goldman

Love, Healing and Creation. What do these things have in common and what does art have to do with healing anyway? Join Candace and Quantum Healer Olivia Sayward for a fun quantum conversation about the intersection between art & quantum healing.

Transcript

Olivia
The other thing I’ve just noticed is that the more healing that we, that we receive or that we go through, the more, we’re able to tap into our own creativity. So I think that’s where a lot of the artists end up coming into this space is because they might have, you know, realize the healing potential from from being creative or from creating art and I’ve noticed that kind of love, creativity and healing always seem to be coming from the same place and often when we even even when we feel drawn to someone, you know, a human that we haven’t met before that it’s often because healing is meant to take place or love is meant to take place or, you know, creating something together is meant to take place

Candace
Hi, everyone, it’s Candace craw Goldmann from quantum healers.com. And today we’re going to be talking to one of our spotlighted practitioners. This is Olivia Sayward. Hi, Olivia.

Olivia
Hi.

Candace
I’m so excited to get to know you. I have a lot of things I want to talk about. But can you give us a brief introduction? Just a little bit about who you are, where you are how you got into this work?

Olivia
Yes, so I am based in Berlin, Germany. And how did I get into this work? I mean, as most people I had a tough time. I had a lot of things happening to me all at the same time in my life. And then I started looking for answers and going on the healing journey and looking for help and assistance. And that led to me taking lots of different courses, Reiki and shamanism and quantum healing and herbalism. And just filling my toolbox with all the tools that I can find to help. And I think one of the more subconscious reasons that I started doing this work was that my, my grandfather actually was a healer. And he used to do past life regressions. And really, yeah, and my, my mother took a lot of different courses as well. But as it often is, we don’t initially want to follow in the footsteps of our parents and grandparents and we have to find our own path towards the work. And yeah, so that’s kind of how I how I got here. Super, super.

Candace
So I’ve got lots of questions, lots of things I want to talk to you about. My first question is, do you know Mario? Are Mario riding? Or who’s it also in Berlin? And if you don’t, I’ll be shocked.

Olivia
No, I haven’t min as a matter of fact.

Candace
I thought you might actually even say that may have been who you had a session with. So you need to look him up. He is a longtime practitioner, a wonderful friend he he’s also in Berlin. No, you know what, he’s not in Berlin. Strike that I have my cities mixed up, which is bad considering I still live in Germany. She’s in Frankfurt. Berlin is where Hara could Sikhi is?

Olivia
So you know? Yes, she’s who I had my first session with.

Candace
Well, there you go. So I just mixed up my German cities, my apologies to both of Mario and Hara, who, well, that’s great. And Hara is amazing. And I’ve been to her lovely apartment and spent some really good quality time with her more than once, both there in Greece and here in America. So that’s fantastic. It is amazing to have German speaking practitioners. But you’re exactly where you born.

Olivia
So I grew up in the US till I was 12. And then we moved to Germany because my dad is German. And we lived here as a family for several years. And then I ended up staying in Germany because it became the kind of place where I grew up and became independent and yeah, where I started building my life. So So I ended up going to German school, got thrown in the deep end to learn German from scratch and then moved to Berlin eventually after I went to university.

Candace
That’s, that’s wonderful. And you’ve you’ve lived other places to Mexico even.

Olivia
yeah, I spent a lot of the last couple years in Mexico and Chiapas. Just kind of getting new perspectives. I took some took a permaculture and herbalism course for a month down in Guatemala. courses about now actual building was kind of just looking for different examples of community and how people are building new ways of living or kind of reconnecting with the original wisdom. And yeah, made some amazing connections there visited a lot of like cacao cacao farms was like trying to find out as much as I could about that plant. And that kind of led me down the whole plant paths as well connecting more to the natural world.

Candace
I love that I just had a really deep conversation with some practitioners who know of some clinical kind of hypnotherapist more of the conventional traditional approach who’ve just received some training and some plant medicine, the microdosing of mushrooms primarily. And then went to sort of an exploratory experience of that. And I’m talking about my friends, Donna, and Diana, and Donna McMurtry, and Diana dear, they’re sisters in Colorado, and they said, they really notice that these practitioners, they’re very excited about this new approach to work, but they really not ever felt in the quantum space. You know, they’re far more convention, and they were, you know, they were needing our tools, let’s just put it that way, they are needing our tools, we’re used to navigating in that space. And these people this was so out of the box for them, that I find that that’s fantastic that, you know, be Qh and other quantum healing methods can help navigate the connection between those two, you know, facets of trying to help people.

Olivia
Yeah, I’ve definitely noticed that, that like commonality as well, and it’s something that I would like to explore to more in the future, like, you know, how to work with mushrooms in small doses, and see how those worlds can connect. Because I think that there’s probably some people who might have a little bit of trouble getting out of their head, who are still very, you know, fixed on on. Yeah, just the logical side of their mind. And I feel like, eventually, that could be a good bridge to kind of introduce mushrooms a little bit. Sure to help those. Those people, you know, let go of their logic for that short amount of time.

Candace
I think that’s great. And, you know, that’s what BQH is all about is, what tools are available for us to use without locking us down, you know, without prescribing the same journey with the same outline for everybody, which it just doesn’t work, right. I mean, we have to adapt to who’s in front of us. So speaking of adapting, uh, you know, I realized when I went over to your website, and it’s very, very obvious, I mean, even just looking at you right now, it’s very obvious that you have this background in art and design. And you know, what I have to tell you, I have some pretty good intuition. I didn’t know what I was going to throw on after asking you to meet with me today. And I saw this, this scarf, and I thought, you know, what, this is it. This needs to be on me to talk to this gal. And after seeing your website, and even the color of your walls, I’m like, Okay. And what am I talking about? I’m talking about the intersection, I think I’ve even done a video about this, that’s probably already or will be published pretty soon. But the intersection between art and quantum healing. There’s a lot of intersection there. There’s a lot of artists who do this work. I wonder if you could talk about that a little bit, because I love the title of your practice, you know, white rabbit, right, white rabbit journeys, talk a little bit about that talk a little bit about art, and how that kind of way of thinking matches up with what we do.

Olivia
Yeah, it’s been a interesting journey. I’ve kind of been thinking about those, like crossover spaces a lot more recently, as well. I studied illustration, and I work as a designer, kind of, you know, during the part of the week. And I think that it really helped, you know, going to art school and kind of trying to look at things from a different perspective and, and really, over time, not realizing it, but kind of building up this library of symbolism and, like recognizing, yeah, the visual cues that has really helped me become a good practitioner as well because I can kind of you know, if someone is telling me like, oh, yeah, I’m walking through this forest. I’m meeting a king. He’s giving me a rose like It’s kind of like, sometimes it becomes such a sub symbolic journey or can be that it’s nice to have like almost this like catalogue of language in, in the mind that kind of lends itself to that. So the more that I do this work, the more I realize how that crossover is really natural, especially since we’re working with the imagination the whole time. And a lot of the energies that we connect to, in these sessions, especially if it’s, you know, a being from a different world, or even just the nature spirits of this world, they communicate in images, a lot of the times and, or, or I’ve even had sessions where someone wasn’t able to verbalize what their higher self was saying, but they could describe the pictures that they were getting. And, yeah, so that’s the one thing that kind of really connects these two worlds. And then the other thing I’ve just noticed is that the more healing that we that we receive over receiver that we go through, the more, we’re able to tap into our own creativity. So I think that’s where a lot of the artists end up coming into this space is because they might have, you know, realize the healing potential from from being creative or from creating art. And I’ve noticed that kind of love, creativity and healing always seem to be coming from the same place. And often when we even even when we feel drawn to someone, you know, a human that we haven’t met before that it’s often because healing is meant to take place or love is meant to take place or, you know, creating something together is meant to take place. Yeah. Well,

Candace
that’s just fantastic. Can I ask how old you are, because that’s why that’s such a, it’s such a perfectly wise, understanding and capture of what this is. And to come to it is just fantastic.

Olivia
I’m 33.

Candace
You are a young and I mean, you are a young end. So I’m about 30 years older than you are. And when I was 33 I hadn’t I had plenty of paranormal experiences, I was deep into the creative realm, but I had no inkling I would end up where I am now. At your age, so. So that is that is fantastic. Okay, so,

Olivia
but I’m, I’m only here or like a lot of young people are at this stage because of the forerunners and the people who paved the path.

Candace
That’s just so true. That’s so true. I, you know, I often think about things like, when I was graduating high school, it was when the Loris was like, you know, talking to Nostradamus and, and people who walked with Jesus and all this, and that whole very important part of her life was going on. And I was completely clueless, and had no idea of that realm. Although I was experiencing my own sort of things at the time, like spontaneous OB ease, which back in the 80s, early 80s, that that’s, that was terrifying, because there was no real place to go to get information about that at all. I mean, there was very little written, There was hardly anybody who speaks, you know, like we did today, back then it just, it just wasn’t a thing. And I knew I knew, knew knew not to tell a doctor that I knew very well not to tell the doctor that and I myself have had, and maybe you have to, in the subsequent years since I’ve been doing this work, I’ve had more than one person who had been committed, I mean, absolutely committed to mental institutions or programs, even shock therapy, after basically describing incredible spiritual events, you know, and visitations and beautiful openings and expansions, and then they shared it with the only people they want, they they thought they could share that with and then they were instantly either, you know, given shocks to the head or massive amounts of medication or, or labeled schizophrenic, which, of course, that’s not everybody, but wow, I mean, our world really has changed.

Olivia
Yeah, even since my childhood, I mean, my, my mom and my, my grandfather obviously would talk a lot about a lot of these things and past lives and my grandpa would kind of say I like that he was seeing this thing you know, you know, seeing things and stuff. But I mean, when I was a kid or teenager, it wasn’t say, like, safe to talk about these things either. And even for me, when I started, a lot of like, information was coming through me. And I was kind of understanding more about how everything was connected. It took me a couple years to open up to the people around me about that. And I’m glad I did, because I was then able to be a safe place for them to share their experiences. And when I, when I shared more about it than I noticed, like, oh, yeah, this person had already been to a shaman. And this person had a grandfather who was doing this and that, so it wasn’t as uncommon, as expected. And the more time went on, the more it became safe to talk about these, these things, and then kind of be the person who’s like, yeah, you’re not crazy. You’re okay, you’re fine.

Candace
Olivia, was it your paternal or maternal grandfather? And how is it that he got into this?

Olivia
My maternal grandfather, yeah, he was a teacher. And then he started taking a lot of courses on how to help children through sort of developmental stages that they had missed when they were growing up. So this was in like the 90s. The, I think it was called Brain gym at the time. It was kind of where they would reintegrate movements missed. So for example, sitting up or rolling over a lot of those things, or also even doing really going through kind of the birth process. And, yeah, just in reintegrating steps that had been missed, and helping kind of kids that had had problems with reading or, you know, wetting the bed, like a lot of these things were then balanced out through that. And I think that work then led to him going deeper into energy healing work, and past life regressions and stuff. But um, yeah, he passed away, like 1010 years ago. So I didn’t get to learn directly from him. My whole healing journey didn’t start until later. But I know that he’s, he’s guiding me from the other side.

Candace
I’m sure he is. So he passed right about the same time that Dolores did then. So how fascinating is that? Well, what I love even hearing about that is his his understanding about how physicality is so much a part of our spirit, virtual journey here, you know, so many people want to separate these two things, and they are intimately bound up in each other. I mean, we sort of have this idea, and I don’t think it’s often helpful that, you know, the ones who really, were able to do this for a while, and well were like, monks, you know, who separated themselves from the rest of humanity and that workaday world, and took themselves off somewhere sitting in a lotus position, and then not not doing anything but kind of being in their, in their headspace, and often sort of ignoring what’s going on in in the physical form to make that happen. And you know, what, that was a path. And I actually think it was probably one of the more powerful paths during that time, but what’s happening with us now means we don’t have to do that anymore. And actually, I mean, I really believe that and actually, I believe sometimes if you neglect your physical presence and interaction on the planet, you’re really missing something and kind of reaching for the expansion of the of the spiritual if you’re ignoring your body have you found that to be true?

Olivia
Yeah, definitely. That’s been that’s been a big part of my journey as well is that yeah, I mean, a lot of people say like, you can only go as high as you can ground down like you know, if you have the image of a tree and like the branches aren’t going to be able to reach further than the roots are reaching those who are in direct you know, in a direct relationship to each other. So one of the problems that I had when for a big chunk of my life and until I kind of really look started looking for answers was kind of being ungrounded and having my head too much in the clouds and you know, daydreaming and and not really having the tools to ground my wishes and desires into reality. And I think that was probably also a theme that kind of ran through my family, which is one of the things that’s kind of my job in this lifetime is to make all the dreams come true. And yeah, for those to come true, it, it requires, you know, good health and taking care of the body and spending time connecting to the earth and eating well. And yeah, not staying up in the clouds too much.

Candace
Because, yeah, a nice balance. Yeah. All right. Um, so I’m gonna veer off into a completely different aspect of, of a conversation right now, if you’ll allow me. So one of the one of the driving reasons I wanted to talk to you today was was simply the thank you for something. And this might seem sort of that it’s internal, but it’s kind of not in what I’m talking about is our quantum healers.com. Platform. So those of you who followed us for a while, or who interact with us, or who even members of our directory forum and website know that we have been in the middle of technology shift and change and platform change, we outgrew the last kind of cobbled together system that provided us with the infrastructure to offer what we do to practitioners and clients. And we moved to our our whole new system. And it’s been not the easiest. And why is it because we didn’t start from scratch if we would have started from scratch. This actually wouldn’t have been that hard. But I was adamant that we were bringing everything with us. So what am I talking, I’m talking about archives and information and interaction that’s happened on our support forum for 16 years. 16 years ago, technology was something completely different than it is now. And I insisted that that, for me, that’s like archaeological gold. Right? The things we were talking about then, are not exactly the things we’re talking about. Now. We certainly have some basis of foundational bases where things are kind of always were talked about. But some of our some of our understandings have shifted and changed. Certainly our perspectives have expanded. So all that information, kind of in a linear pattern, I think is fascinating is some future archaeologist, digital archaeologists might find it fascinating to watch humans open up in that way. So our our platform right now, we are certainly still endeavoring to make it smooth, workable for everybody. And and you beautiful Olivia. We’re asking some questions about some of our interfaces. And I actually loved your question. Her direct question was, hey, I’m trying to work out reviews on my directory listing? And can you help me understand that and some of the questions you asked, and that my daughter, Lauren answerde actually helped me because I’m like, Yeah, I wanted to know that, too. So thank you for that. I also wanted to thank you so much, you said something kind of got me choked up, you said you’ve been working with, or behind the scenes in it for a while with big companies with lots of, you know, resources and people behind them. And sometimes some of these changes, take years to sort of smooth out and that actually, I mean, when I’m reading this today, I actually felt myself sitting back on the sofa. That was such a gift to me, that was such a gift to me, because we try so hard. And we try not to talk about it a lot, right? To not talk about it to members or even the public like this. But we’re constantly fixing stuff in the background, managing individual and, and group issues plus structural issues. And sometimes we fix something over here. And it makes something way over there go go off somehow. And we’re like, How did that even connect? Right? We are back there. So so this is my very public. Thank you to that. But it’s also a curiosity question. Behind the Scenes of it with like you said a big news company. Can you talk about that a little bit because that’s interesting to me.

Olivia
I mean, I don’t want to go into that too much. But I have worked for news companies in in Germany. And so I work as a graphic designer, but part of my initial training was They had to work in the IT area. So I was kind of like watching them all frantically trying to figure out, you know, how this connects to that? And how to change this and how to make this work for the needs and then yet, so I’m very familiar with how, how complex? Yeah, just the back end of a website is back into the forum, the back end of a whole platform. And yeah, you can end up tweaking one little thing, and then it Yeah, it does set off, like problems. So where else? And, yeah, in my kind of day to day, I sometimes have to work with the people who are coding and making new tools. And the goal, of course, is always to have these things done within, you know, like half a year, and even with like a big news company that’s making, you know, making money and has the resources and has a whole team, you know, like 10, plus team or whatever those things take. Always take, you know, double, triple, quadruple the amount of time to get done. So, yeah, for that reason, I, I always have the utmost respect for anyone who’s who’s doing that kind of undertaking. And even on just like making my own website, I was like, oh, yeah, I’ll pass this out, you know, in a couple of weeks, and then it ends up taking, like, you know, several months to get it to what you actually intended. So, yeah.

Candace
Well, thank you. On behalf of our very small team, we feel seen. And thank you so much for that. I find it interesting too, though, that, you know, when you mentioned that in sort of your background, because that helps us speak about what we even do with consciousness. Right? Have you noticed how much we talk in computer language code on in both of these areas? So I find that fascinating, too. And I bet you have some, some ways of thinking about that to you, you have all these different exposures to different things that are really fitting in to helping you be a terrific healer.

Olivia
Yeah, it has been interesting. For the longest time, I was like, How is this all connecting? You know, why am I still in this job when I want to be doing this work? You know, but um, but yeah, I’m noticing that that like curiosity from like, the whole journalism world, and, um, yeah, just that kind of daily. Daily research and stuff really does help me in this work. And then the, the, what I’ve learned from the healing world too, and kind of the creativity and kind of looking at all these things more, it’s definitely flowing back into the work as like a visual journalist as well. So I’m, I’ve kind of gotten guidance recently as well to like incorporate more colors to you know, put the focus, if I’m doing like an illustration for some some article or something to bring the like, life giving colors into the work. And so it’s quite exciting to see how both of these worlds are really cross pollinating each other.

Candace
Yeah, that’s terrific. I find sometimes with some of those more left brain conventional, just waking up people using some computer language. Here’s some that I use quite a bit I talk about after having a session being, you know, Jane Doe. So now your Jane Doe 2.0. I mean, you know, you’ve been upgraded here and something kind of clicks quickly, sometimes, in people’s minds, you know, and here’s another one that I talk about a lot. And that is a genetic, cause I have a lot of people who focus on physical issues, physical challenges, or diseases or etc. And a lot of people will say, Well, you know, my, my challenge my disease is is is genetic. And I’ve talked about and this one has views this reference a lot that has made a lot of sense, which is, you know, what having a genetic component even from both parents means is, it’s like I said, it’s like you’ve you have the program downloaded on your desktop, but you have not double clicked it and remove it from its folder yet. Sit on the Desktop and never be run? Yes, you have it, don’t deny that you have it. But you don’t have to run that program, sometimes that really like people like, you know, and then talking about things like rebooting, or, you know, going through the Wayback Machine or you know, a prior version, or it’s things like that. So having some computer speak language has been helpful, certainly with some people. And this is where it’s important to sort of adapt to whoever’s sitting in front of you.

Olivia
Yeah, that’s, that’s great advice. It’s interesting. I like last week, I had to make some infographics about epigenetics. So it’s funny that you, you were kind of mentioning that to the whole, like, yeah, you can, you can turn certain things on or off. And I think it’s gonna be really interesting, especially with like the quantum healing work to see where the communication with like our bodies and our cells and our genes goes, in the next years, I feel like we’re, like, that’s gonna really be coming into it a lot more of like, how to target and exact area of the body or the genes how to rewrite. Yeah, rewrite our subconscious. And like, Yeah, put in new programs and stuff. It’s gonna be exciting.

Candace
That is what we’re kind of towards the end of our time. But I would be remiss if I didn’t ask you about something that I’ve been meaning, to ask that you mentioned it just briefly on one of the threads in our support forum. People were talking about, I think it was Alison brown talking about Stargate sessions and use said that you had this session, you talked about crystals, maybe but somebody who had a session, they found a pyramid or something in Africa. Can you just tell us a little bit more about that session? If that’s okay, if that’s appropriate? Give us a synopsis of it sounded fascinating to me. And I would love to hear a little bit more if that’s all right.

Olivia
Yeah, that one was exciting. I’ve had a couple of people have kind of like pyramid related information come through. In that particular one, it was very towards the beginning of my work. So I didn’t maybe have all the tools to like, really, you know, cry. But, um, it was like a, you know, a past or a parallel life where the client was in somewhere in Africa, like Central Central Africa. And he was like, an archaeologist. And found this, this pyramid in the middle of nowhere, and kind of entered it, it was It wasn’t being used anymore. But he found it ended up being a portal. And so he went through it, and then he was like, an outer space. And then we kind of found his, one of his guides or kind of the planet that he was connected to, to communicate with. So yeah, now I kind of wish I’d asked more questions about that. But it was very interesting to that that was, you know, it was like, an important area and this this pyramid was functioning is like an access point to reaching. Yeah, the cosmos or so it definitely has made me curious, you know, like, how many undiscovered pyramids? Are there or undiscovered? Points are there on the earth that are actually these magical access points? You know, maybe they haven’t been found? Maybe they’ve been closed for our safety. Maybe they’ve been closed so that we don’t expand? Who knows? But that’s always exciting. And yeah, when I was in Mexico, Guatemala, I tried to go like, to as many moments as I could, I was just, yeah, it was just like, yeah, it was, uh, yeah, kind of slightly subconscious. I didn’t, you know, have any, like, groundbreaking experiences or anything, but I’m just like, No, I feel like I need to go and visit as many as I can. So that was exciting.

Candace
You know, Dolores Cannon will always be my muse, my mentor, my teacher. The reason I do this work at all. And so often in sessions, I feel her presence and I just felt her sort of sweeping as we’re talking about this. And I know I’ve already planned on you know, As we’re recording this early, but my immersion classes coming up, and isn’t it fascinating and I know you’ve trained in Q HHT, her pyramid of light. So she, she installed, sort of, you know, a Consciousness Portal. With that pyramid, you know, ostensibly, she’s following her intuition. It was supposed to be about sort of safety or whatever. But she put people in a crystal pyramid of light. And as they were entering this, this session, she created a portal for them to go, which I just find fascinating. I feel like she’s standing right over here, just laughing and laughing. And you know, something else occurred to me, I don’t know if you’ve ever thought of this. But I could almost have heard this endorse his voice as you were talking about this client of yours that had this experience. Well, was that their experience? Of course it was, but it was still it was still and also a shared consciousness experiment experience with you. Because you are a guide for that client, right? You are a guide for that client, which means you quantumly entangled with that exact pyramid Stargate. That’s there, you have your own. Now, connection. And in meditation, in dreams or in your own session, you can go back and you can ask the questions. And you can go experiment all on your own that exact place, which is actually giving me goosebumps right now. I think that’s pretty neat idea. What do you think? Yeah,

Olivia
I’m gonna I’m gonna play with that. Definitely.

Candace
Excellent. Well, you know, Olivia, I know this is impromptu, and I gave you absolutely no notice. But thank you for joining me today and chatting. It’s been an absolute pleasure. Yeah.

Olivia
Thank you so much. That was like, super spontaneous, but perfect timing.

Candace
Yeah, I’m all about following my intuition. And that’s what it told me to do today. Other than the quantum healers.com directory, of course, can you tell everyone how they can find you?

Olivia
Yeah, you can find me at www dot White Rabbit. journeys.com.

Candace
All right. Well, you have a great day, Olivia. Thank you.

Olivia
Yeah, you too. Thank you as well. Okay, bye for now. Bye